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Jo and Mark I have been in touch with Cambridge University Press a few times since we started subscribing to the Nesli deal in January 2004. The message the student gets when accessing the journals off campus is very unhelpful. By the way this is not a SwetsWise issue because you get exactly the same message when accessing a CUP journal via EbscoHost EJS * i.e. it is a CUP message and out of the control of Ebsco and Swets. The other thing apart from Athens which annoys me is that the words free are against each title in CUP which is not one of your original subscriptions. We all spend time trying to convince the students that because something is on the web it does not mean that it is free. Our institutions pay CUP for these ejournals so of course they are not free... My last correspondence with CUP was in December and this is the reply I got: "Many thanks for your message. I fully understand both of your concerns. Regarding ATHENS, our developers are currently implementing the ATHENS code and we hope to test it at the start of 2005. This should mean it will be live soon thereafter. The word "free" is misleading and this will be changed for the 2005 Packages." I have just checked and the word free is still there Maureen Maureen Richardson Electronic Resources Manager Learning Resource Centre Edge Hill College St Helens Rd Ormskirk Lancashire L39 4QP [log in to unmask] Telephone: 01695 58 4596 Fax: 01695 58 4592 >>> [log in to unmask] 02/04/05 4:52 PM >>> Dear All, I am having similar quandries at the moment and am frequently receiving emails from students who have been referred back to me from Cambridge about getting access to the off-campus password we've been given. I think we're currently hanging on with waiting for Athens developments at the moment. Its a bit frustrating as the half measure of referring people to this temporary password is a bitty solution. Do we advertise it on mass and then have to revise those instructions when (if?) Athens access is set-up or dish it out in dribs and drabs? On the other issue of access through Swetswise, I do wish we could have some sort of notice that more clearly indicates on Swetswise that even if you login in with Athens you're gonna have difficulties trying to access Cambridge content remotely because of student expectations about the type of service provided by Swetswise. Best Wishes Jo > Jo Walker > E-Journals Coordinator (and Circulation Supervisor) > Library, The London School of Economics and Political Science > 10 Portugal Street > London > WC2A 2HD > > [log in to unmask] > > Tel.: 020 7955 6740 > -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Teskey [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 04 February 2005 16:02 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Off-campus CUP access through Swetswise I was in touch with CUP recently. Still no date for Athens, though they did give us a password for off-campus use, which is better than nothing. Patrick Teskey Systems Support Librarian University of Ulster -----Original Message----- From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark Brown Sent: 04 February 2005 15:56 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Off-campus CUP access through Swetswise Dear All, Does anyone know whether the fact that Cambridge Journals Online are listed on the ATHENS coming-soon page as a future ATHENS protected resource will resolve the current difficulty with accessing CUP journals off-campus through Swetswise ? (Or have I only just noticed an entry that's been up for some time !) Many thanks Mark Brown Electronic Services Librarian Library Services University of Central England "If you don't make mistakes, you're not trying hard enough!" -Charlie Parker ----------------------------------------------------- This email and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Edge Hill or associated companies. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender as soon as possible and delete it and all copies of it. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. The message content of in-coming emails is automatically scanned to identify Spam and viruses otherwise Edge Hill do not actively monitor content. However, sometimes it will be necessary for Edge Hill to access business communications during staff absence. Edge Hill has taken steps to ensure that this email and any attachments are virus free. However, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Edge Hill for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. <<<<EdgeHill>>>>