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Hi Steve, > -----Original Message----- > From: LHC Computer Grid - Rollout > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Traylen > Sent: 12 October 2005 00:45 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [LCG-ROLLOUT] VOBox-Operations guide. > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 07:58:03AM +0200 or thereabouts, ?ke > Sandgren wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 20:13 +0100, Steve Traylen wrote: > > > Dear Site administrators and ROC Managers. > > > > > > > > > > Following on the LCG operations meeting at Culham > > > > > > > Thanks for the feedback so far. Version 0.4 and 0.5 of the > > > document, LCG-VOBox-Operations-Guide. is at > > > > > > https://edms.cern.ch/document/655277 > > > > > > version 0.4 has updates in green. > > > version 0.5 is identical but with out the rainbow effect. > > > > Sorry for not reading this sooner... > > > > I totally disagree on section 5 Operating system. > > > > The site should decide what OS they want to run and the VO > should be > > made to adapt to this. The site may for instance have > security rules > > in place that says they can't run just any OS that the VO wants (or > > anyone of the EGEE/LCG/EDG supported ones) or they might even be > > running a "non-supported" hardware like RS6K machines with AIX... > > Hi Ake? > > As with all questions the VO is free to choose what it wants or > requires. If they were to request Minix for instance sites > would probably > can(and SHOULD) say no. this is I hope clear in the introduction. > All sites have to choose an OS and > middleware that they run. They could reject request for Minix. This could probably be made clearer by couching the language a little (... If a site agrees, they MUST ... ) At the moment the document reads like it's placing most of the onus on the sites and not much on the VOs themselves. I'd like to see a little more justification from the VOs in the questionaire (Why does this service need to be run at the site? How long is the service going to be needed for? etc.) I'd also like to see periodic reviews/renewals of the justifications written into the agreements. At the moment it looks like a sort of openended agreement that will let the VOs offload a lot of the support load to the sites and then have very little incentive to produce a "better" solution. I'll talk to you about it tomorrow and try to come up with some specific text amendments. Yours, Chris. > Thanks for the comments, any more is good. > > Steve > > > > The currently stated situation is simply wrong from a sysadmin > > perspective. > > > > PS. > > There is also a spelling error in the document log for 0.4 > "Choose and > > OS..." > > -- > Steve Traylen > [log in to unmask] > http://www.gridpp.ac.uk/ >