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Chris Brogan on 13 May 2005 at 15:42 said:-

> I cannot agree with you. Just because the person has left the 
> address they havent ceased to exist.

The debate seems to revolve around "any data in the possession of or likely
to come into the possession of the data controller" when linked to the "data
controller" definition.

If it is likely or possible that the data subject can be identified by the
data controller, the data remains personal data.

Ian W

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> issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Brogan
> Sent: 13 May 2005 15:42
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Accuracy of records - 'Gone Away'
> 
> 
> Tim, 
> I cannot agree with you. Just because the person has left the 
> address they havent ceased to exist. If he owes you money you 
> are probably going to track him down. The information you 
> hold on him will help you to do so. 
> It is big business tracking down "Gone Aways". Credit Card 
> Companies, Mail Order Companies etc spend a fortune on it. 
> The credit agencies have dedicated `databases to assist in 
> locating "Gone Aways". The information Commissioner issued a 
> code of practice many years ago dealing with the functions of 
> Tracing Agencies. The Information Commissioner has actively 
> targeted agencies that track down absconders because of the 
> methods that they use. An absconder was once located because 
> the agent knew he had a dog called Spikins. There are 
> numerous cases of a similar nature.
>  
> Chris Brogan
> www.securitysi.com
> 
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> 
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection 
> issues on behalf of Tim Trent
> Sent: Fri 13/05/2005 15:15
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Accuracy of records - 'Gone Away'
> 
> 
> 
> I disagree.
> 
> Tim Trent at "Old address, old company" or "Old house, Old 
> Street, Old Town", is not sufficient data, even with other 
> data reasonably held, to identify a living individual.  It 
> identifies what is now a non existent individual.  You are 
> wise to counsel caution, of course, but this record cannot 
> identify Tim Trent.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of 
> Roland Perry
> Sent: 13 May 2005 14:40
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Accuracy of records - 'Gone Away'
> 
> In message 
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> [log in to unmask]>,
>  at 13:54:23 on Fri, 13 May 2005, Tim Trent 
> <[log in to unmask]> writes
> >Someone who is a "gone away" is precisely that and the record is no 
> >longer capable of identifying a living individual
> 
> You might not have their current address, but there will be 
> enough information to *identify* the person. Don't confuse 
> identifying them with being able to locate them this week.
> --
> Roland Perry
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