I suspect that "living" is equally important - if it were not, then the word would not be involved. Either way, I believe the position would be that it will only be an "individual" once born. There has not yet been any case law or IC guidance on this point, so it's presumably still open to argument.
Chris
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I'm thinking that the answer lies with the 'individual' bit of living individual.
They are alive in the womb and therefore living.
When in law does a baby become an individual? Whilst they are in the womb or when they are born?
Nic
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I'm not so sure. If sufficient information is available, e.g., "the unborn child of Mr and Mrs Jones of 28 Acacia Avenue, etc.", then surely that unborn child is an identifiable living individual?
Charles
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Subject: Re: Unborn child - DPA living individual
Oops. The "it is borne" was superfluous. Also slightly confusing sentence structure. I shall try again.
Any information on that baby processed whilst it is unborn will not, at that time, be personal data. Once the baby is born, and an individual under the Act, information on procedures carried out on it whilst it was in utero will be medical information on that baby, and therefore sensitive personal data.
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Once the unborn child is born, and therefore an individual under the act, the information relating to that child when it was unborn will be sensitive personal data, but not before it is born it is borne, I shouldn't have thought.
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Subject: [data-protection] Unborn child - DPA living individual
The DPA applies to living individuals. Would the DPA apply to an unborn child?
For example, hospitals carry out procedures on unborn children in the womb therefore sensitive personal data will be processed in the records kept of this procedure.
I would be grateful for your opinions.
Nic Drew
DPO
Cardiff and Vale NHS Trust
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