I have been using the "ordering a pizza" scenario for quite some time in data protection training sessions and awareness talks. It goes down really well, especially with the cynics in the group who think DP is a waste of time or those who sit looking at you with the face that can only mean one thing - "I was forced to come"! If you get some kind of fundamental objection you can turn it round by saying "OK, suppose there were no restrictions on your personal data," ... then use the pizza story. John -----Original Message----- From: Carl Johnson [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 24 February 2005 13:43 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] How far away is this...? I was always against ID cards and unified national databases. I found the governments arguments in favour to be spurious to say the least. I agree that the example is slightly OTT but the idea no longer seems as far fetched as it did a few years ago. I hope that the DPA is sufficent to halt such 'advances' but I don’t feel confident that it will. Rgds Carl -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Simon Howarth (WSL) Sent: 24 February 2005 09:05 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] How far away is this...? http://www.aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf I used to be reasonably pro-ID card, but over the past few years I have realised that whilst the "demonstration" above is a little OTT, everything seems to be moving that way. It's very funny in a scary way, but hopefully the DPA in this country will go a long way to stop it. Will it? Hmmm..... Simon Howarth. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 22/02/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 22/02/2005 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ =========================================================================== This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any reading, printing, storage, disclosure to another person, copying or any other action taken in respect of this e-mail is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by using the reply function and then permanently delete the email from your inbox. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^