Ian W is right. There are no circumstances that I am aware of whereby a PI can use s29 of the DPA. If the data really are required for the s29 purposes, the police would be the ones investigating. Private investigations are just that - private not public - and therefore the public interest argument for which s29 is intended does not apply. I cannot see how a hired hand can be allowed to use this method of obtaining personal data. If a solicitor is using a PI to collect this data he/she may just as well ask someone off the street to ask a data controller to make a disclosure. The exemption is there to allow the police (and tax collectors, etc) to do their job where they can justify the request. A PI, in my opinion, never could. If the PI is employed by a court as a bailiff, say in respect of an unpaid fine, they will have the appropriate paperwork including a court warrant. The data would be demanded, not requested. I would indeed ask the PI for all his/her details, to prove their ID, then I would refuse their request and inform them that I would be reporting them to the ICO. I would also be tempted to inform the local police that this person is using underhand methods to obtain data. A section 55 offence can be committed by misleading a data controller (or their agent) into believing an exemption applies when it does not. The offence can also be committed by an employee who knows the data should not be processed but does so in some misguided sense of moral outrage (as per the CSA case and recent Dorset Special Constable case). Many PIs are ex-police officers and some believe their public powers continue beyond retirement - they do not. Ian B Ian Buckland Managing Director Keep IT Legal Ltd Please Note: The information given above does not replace or negate the need for proper legal advice and/or representation. It is essential that you do not rely upon any advice given without contacting your solicitor. If you need further explanation of any points raised please contact Keep I.T. Legal Ltd at the address below: 55 Curbar Curve Inkersall, Chesterfield Derbyshire S43 3HP (Reg 3822335) Tel: 01246 473999 Fax: 01246 470742 E-mail: [log in to unmask] Website: www.keepitlegal.co.uk ------- In a message dated 27/01/05 14:15:34 GMT Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > From the initial enquiry, on the surface that may be so and as such a s.55 > or s.56 offence could easily be committed. > > Should that prove to be the case then s.29 would apply, enabling the > disclosure of collected information about the enquirer to the legitimate > investigative authorities. Some would argue that principle 7 would require > such reverse reporting in appropriate circumstances, although I believe > determining the appropriateness of the circumstances could be down to a > political decision within the organisation in question. > > Carl Johnson on Thursday, January 27, 2005 at 1:21 PM said:- > > > Perhaps it would be wise for the OP to name and shame? > > That could compromise the success of any subsequent investigation > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] All user commands can be found at : - http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm Any queries about sending or receiving message please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] (all commands go to [log in to unmask] not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^