datap on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 at 9:23 AM said:-
> Sorry this is not really on this subject, more picking up on
> something Ian said below - I have looked for an FOI list on
> the jiscmail website and was unable to find one (except for
> Wales and Northern Ireland). I accept I am probably being
> fuzzy-minded (it is Tuesday morning after
> all) but can anyone point me in the right direction?
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Ian W
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection
> issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of datap
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 9:23 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Pending Trays / FOI
>
>
> Sorry this is not really on this subject, more picking up on
> something Ian said below - I have looked for an FOI list on
> the jiscmail website and was unable to find one (except for
> Wales and Northern Ireland). I accept I am probably being
> fuzzy-minded (it is Tuesday morning after
> all) but can anyone point me in the right direction?
> Thanks,
> Tanya
>
> >>> Ian Welton <[log in to unmask]> 24/01/2005 16:44:00 >>>
> This would seem more of a question for the FOI list, but
> imagine there may be many valid ways; such as formulating a
> request for outstanding/pending information within a
> specified function(s) or asking for information received
> within a specified time period which may still be held within
> the physical in/pending trays of specified function(s). What
> do managers ask?
>
> The subject access rules would of course, post Durant, not
> seem to apply to some of the personal data held in that way,
> although I would stand to be corrected on that.
>
> Ian W
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Smith, Tony
> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 4:13 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Pending Trays
> >
> >
> > How could you word any request under FOI? As I understand
> it, if you
> > only want information about yourself, it would be subject to the
> > absolute exemption to personal data that is available under
> the FOI.
> > If you wanted information about 3rd parties, it would be
> unlikely that
> > you could meet the provisions for qualified exemption. If you asked
> > for the contents of all pending trays, it would be refused as too
> > general a request. However, I stand to be corrected.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ian
> Welton
> > Sent: 24 January 2005 11:31
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Pending Trays
> >
> >
> > Would the contents then be subject to FOI?
> >
> > Ian W
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carter,
> > > Antoinette (CCM)
> > > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:29 AM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: FW: [data-protection] Pending Trays
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Carter, Antoinette (CCM)
> > > Sent: 24 January 2005 11:20
> > > To: 'Ian Welton'
> > > Subject: RE: [data-protection] Pending Trays
> > >
> > > Interesting question for a Monday morning. I would say that
> > > irrespective of Durrant, an in-tray is not a "relevant
> > filing system"
> > > because you have not carried out the task of "filing", it is
> > > pre-filing not post-filing! An unopened envelope arriving in an
> > > in-tray is not "processing personal data", the personal
> > data contained
> > > in it is only revealed when you perform the processing task
> > of opening
> > > the letter and reading it. I think it is only when you've read
> it,
> > > decided whether or not to bin it, and decided that you shouldn't,
> > > that any sort of "filing" has taken place.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian Welton
> > > Sent: 24 January 2005 10:31
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: [data-protection] Pending Trays
> > >
> > > Would a physical 'In-Tray' or 'Pending-Tray' be categorised
> > as a post
> > > Durant filing system?
> > >
> > > If not, why not and what DPA issues would capture 'any'
> > personal data
> > > so held?
> > >
> > > Ian w
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