I do look forward to the Commissioner enforcing this particular element -
though perhaps he could start with 192.com rather than a council....
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> From: Oakman Phil[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Reply To: Oakman Phil
> Sent: 02 June 2005 14:52
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Opinions sought - Planning
> Applications
>
> I've arrived a bit late at this thread but I would have thought that
> whatever the rights and wrongs of informing the whole of the UK about a
> local planning process, the publishing on the web of these details would
> likely to be in contravention of the 8th principle of the DPA (unless
> there is a piece of software out there which limits hits on websites to
> those in countries with adequate data protection!)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Antoinette Carter
> Sent: 02 June 2005 14:39
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Opinions sought - Planning Applications
>
> I have a lot of sympathy with this view. The main objective of a
> transparent planning process is to allow those people affected, ie. the
> people actually living there, to have a say in proceedings. By that
> definition, all those concerned must be geographically close to the Town
> Hall for their borough. The argument that making access available
> worldwide via the Web adds any value for the borough's residents is weak
> at best, and is probably negated altogether when you take into account
> the loss of privacy, and the possible threat to individuals' personal
> safety.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of [log in to unmask]
> Sent: 02 June 2005 14:19
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [data-protection] Opinions sought - Planning Applications
>
> In a message dated 02/06/05 12:10:06 GMT Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes (snip):
>
> > . I would like to ask another question: what is the effect of
> > maintaining a system where access to the planning process is limited
> > to people who go to the Town Hall?
>
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> Did it not work well for a number of years before the Internet? Did it
> not actually work better than it does now? Was there not a more
> consistent approach to building? Were not the buildings themselves more
> aesthetically pleasing?
> Have councils seen an increase in applications or objections since
> planning went on-line? If not, what is the objective?
>
> It cannot achieve total popular coverage so why is it done? To achieve
> targets. Targets that were set by government in an arbitrary fashion.
> People do not want e-government, government does. The government has
> recently issued directives to councils to force the public to use
> electronic payments, electronic applications and e-systems in general,
> by stoppping the manual (personal
> contact) alternative where possible.
>
> I have never suggested the system is closed down, nor that it does not
> present an opportunity for those with no domestic problems. What I
> object to is that councils are now being told to put the details on the
> web regardless of the wishes of the individual. This is wrong. I hope
> councils ignore the advice and actually ask people whether they object,
> then respect those wishes.
>
> Ian B
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