I occasionally deal with complaints from people who claim that a third party has "stolen" their identity and has caused their account to be cancelled, etc. In such cases I see it as only common sense to provide that customer with all the records we have of that "third party who claimed to be the customer", so that the customer can take whatever action they see fit against them. It would seem perverse to rely on the fig leaf of the DPA to require a formal SAR in such circumstances - but then again if I had been the call centre adviser who had been required to deal with someone who had been phoning the company for 6 hours to report the problem, and sensed that I was dealing with a particularly irritating caller, it is a "cheap" way of getting your own back. - And NO, NO, NO -in No way am I suggesting that Tim Trent is a particularly irritating person to deal with - its just the only reason I can think of when I put myself in the call centre adviser's place (or ears) to justify why they offered to provide the information only on the basis of an SAR..... Personally, I find that my broadband provider (Pipex) offers an excellent standard of customer service. And if they want to offer me a discount I'll plug them even more forcefully. Regards Martin Hoskins Data Protection Manager T-Mobile (UK) Ltd Hatfield Business Park Hatfield, Hertfordshire AL10 9BW +44 (0)7957 234585 +44 (0)1707 319056 fax -----Original Message----- From: Tim Trent [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 16 February 2005 10:02 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: To SAR or not to SAR I have just had the mixed fortune to speak to the organisation that handles broadband internet access complaints for a major ISP. I had an issue with them where a third party has allegedly quoted my full security information and caused my internet access to be cancelled (Stop yelling "Hurray!"). The ISP tells me that the cancellation was by email and the only way I can see the lines on the email that quote my security information, even with all else being redacted, is to issue a SAR. Now my question is "Is my judgement warped because I am personally involved?" I see the SAR as a sledgehammer to crack a nut here. 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