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16:21:35 on Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Kirsty Gray <[log in to unmask]> 
writes
>Roland, I'm sure that somewhere the DP issues will be referred to by the
>Department of Health (or the Prescription Pricing Authority as the sub-
>contractor).
>
>I expect that "being dad" does trump DPA - because the UK version new EHIC
>supposedly only available to UK resident EU citizens who have valid NHS
>number and NINO.

I'm not sure if my kids have NINOs (but they do have NHS numbers).

The E111 covered "any insured person and members of his/her family". It 
isn't clear, in retrospect, what "Insured" means here. Having been 
issued with a NINO, perhaps - although the form only asked for an NHS 
number. Does having an NHS number mean one is "insured"?

>In which case you get the same treatement as an 'insured'
>person in the country that you are visiting.
>
>So children under 16 cannot apply in their own right - parents must apply
>for children quoting the child's NHS no. and their own NINO.

There may have been some sort of "consolidated" application form for the 
E111's, but I don't recall it. Each member of the family has their own 
E111, and as far as I remember they were filled in separately by hand 
and stamped, without a "family" form as mentioned below. But perhaps I'm 
simply mis-remembering.

> There are
>special provisions for applications on behalf of children by non-parental
>guardians, foster parents & boarding school teachers.
>
>Spouses / partners can choose to apply jointly or as individuals and that
>children up to age 19 can be included in 'family' application if still in
>full time education.
>
>There was a 'tick box' on the revised E111 application form (in use for
>2005 only) asking if you also wanted it to be treated as application for
>the EHIC.
>
>I think that I remember a 'tick box' confirming the consent of other family
>members too, but I was only applying for me and it was way back in March so
>I can't be sure!

I've found a copy of the "family" form here:

http://www.touringeurope.org/insurance/e111-2005cmi-application.pdf

And it has a box for the head of household to certify that the people 
listed have consented to disclosing their details (by implication, to 
the PPA). I suppose it's difficult for the HoH to fill in the form 
without them agreeing to disclose the details to him as well.

-- 
Roland Perry

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