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[log in to unmask] wrote: ... > I think it would be a **bad idea** to post all of the J3 meeting papers > in a mailing list, and maybe even a bad idea to post them in a news > group. People **do** get pissed about wasted bandwidth. Now I'm *sure* it's a good idea. > The only way to get anything officially considered at a J3 or WG5 > meeting, even if you show up in person, is to **submit a paper.** A > search through the papers table-of-contents for 30 J3 meetings starting > with meeting 140 shows, **ta da**! ZERO papers submitted by anybody named > Giles and 539 submitted by somebody named Snyder. [...] Interestingly enough, I've posted several suggestions through the appropriate path for people that aren't on the committee (the fortran.com URL). I thought it was probably a black hole. > Most specifically, my employer does not support my participation in J3 > and WG5 meetings to keep James Giles informed, or to seek out and > advocate his opinions. Nor have I mentioned my name as the one (ONE!!! Ha!!!) needing to be informed. The "one" needing to be informed is the general Fortran user community. > As Richard pointed out, standing in the back row and hurling turds over > the spectators at the participants isn't a great way to recruit others to > your point of view. I think someone also mentioned something about civility and courtesy. You seem to have a problem with that. -- J. Giles "I conclude that there are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies." -- C. A. R. Hoare