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I get it. No hold on. Yeah I get it. Wait. Okay I think I get it. Just a sec. I get it! No ... I get ... or do I ... oh right I get it now ... On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 02:24:19 -0800 (PST), [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Mairead: > >"I'm not too sure what Tim means by academic > poetry. I do think, unfortunately (and this is not what I once > believed) that the more I get into poetry the less efficient I get, in > many ways. I feel many tensions, though not as Tim describes."< > > Hi Mairead. I think this debate has gone in a circle now because I realise > that what I was trying to discuss with cris, regarding reflexivity and how > such a thing could really exist in an institutional teaching situation, took > the whole thing back to my original point and question. Firstly, i did > explain what I meant by my general notion of academic verse and then Mark, > quite rightly, pointed out that the term was used to mean something a little > different, a little wider etc. My whole question was aimed at discovering > what the nature of the new 'academic verse' was, and if a lot of > superficially avant looking material was actually no more than its latest > manifestation. If a percentage of such work is the kind of equivilant to > academic verse that i think it is, then the problems are going to be more > pronounced than the minor problems of an older generation of academic verse. > > All the best > Tim A. >