http://www.keytools.com/mice/integra.asp Might be a good solution, but, thanks to the joy of the genius of the AT industry, it only comes as a mouse (and is 1.5k, oh and you can't borrow it to trial)!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, you'd need a mouse -> switch or DX converter box! Cheers Simon Clinical Scientist ACT 0121 627 1627 ex 53245 -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Zahid Aejaz (RFF) Clinical Engineer Sent: 01 July 2005 11:28 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Tongue controlled switches or joystick? Hi Pete I did have the HMC in mind but I think I'll need something much smaller than that. The client I need this for has good ROM and control over his tongue movements but hardly any movement of the head or lips. He also suffers from involuntary spasms that would too frequently move him out of position relative to an externally mounted joystick. So I was thinking about a device that he could perhaps bite onto or keep in the mouth and then control a tiny joystick (perhaps similiar to this micro joystick: http://www.micronavlink.com/microjoystick.html but smaller, waterproof and isolated - tall order, I know!). Alternatively a pad with a number of switches may just work (similiar to this http://www.newabilities.com/) but I can't find a UK supplier for it or anyone who has experience of using this. Voice, Sip/Puff, Eye Blink have all (for different reasons) been eliminated as possible options already. Thanks, Aejaz -----Original Message----- From: Pete Holbourne [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 01 July 2005 10:11 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Tongue controlled switches or joystick? Hello Aejaz, I have seen a HMC micro joystick used for wheel chair control. The small knob on the end of the joy stick was not in the mouth but was held by the mouth on a goose neck mount. The user operated it with his lips and tongue. I think Smile Rehab can give more info. -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Zahid Aejaz (RFF) Clinical Engineer Sent: 01 July 2005 09:58 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Tongue controlled switches or joystick? Dear all, I'm looking for a tongue controlled switch pad or a micro-joystick module that could safely and comfortably be kept in the mouth. Does anyone know of an off-the-shelf solution or a module that could be safely adapted for the purpose? I've seen some mentioned in American AT books but never actually seen one being sold in the UK. Thanks and regards, Aejaz _______________________________________ Aejaz Zahid Senior Clinical Scientist Medical Physics & Clinical Engineering Barnsley Hospital NHS Foundation Trust Barnsley S75 2EP [T] 01226-730000 x2159 [F] 01226-208159 "The views expressed in this email are personal and may not necessarily reflect those of Swindon Borough Council unless explicitly stated otherwise. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify me immediately. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you should not copy it for any purpose, or disclose it's contents to any other person. Senders and recipients of email should be aware that, under the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information Act 2000, the contents may have to be disclosed. This footnote also confirms that this email has been swept by McAfee Anti-Virus software for the presence of computer viruses. However, Swindon Borough Council cannot accept liability for viruses that may be in this email and we recommend that you check all emails with an appropriate virus scanner."