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Colin. If we have a second day, could we focus on how we provide integrated, technology support to, in particular, children and young adults, especially young adults who wish to go to college and who for some reason drop off the end of the provision system for children in education. Once they stop being a "child", the funding just seems to disappear and there is no support for their educational needs. Those needs sometimes include, having a decent wheelchair, possibly powered, which has the appropriate modifications and equipment fitted that will allow them to achieve the most from their educational opportunities. This is not always just supplying them with EAT, but the addition of ventilator support , suction equipment, mobile communication equipment, simple physical modifications etc. I see examples of very simple things that could be done to improve access to technology and education, but there is no one to do them. As an example, I know someone who couldn't reach over to their laptop from their wheelchair because the table they had been provided with prevented them getting underneath it. The simple solution was to make a bigger top for the table, but who in our respective industries would do that ? How do we challenge those who decide how much will go in to the purse, to get them to recognise the financial consequences of all these NSF's and documents that are being churned out. And how do we do that for the people who elect not to go through the NHS? Geoff Harbach WMRC B'ham. -----Original Message----- From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Colin Clayton Sent: 06 April 2005 10:12 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: AT in Education This year RAATE is going to be a one day event. I have not discussed this with any of my RAATE committee colleagues yet but I wonder about the poss of bolting on a second day with a different format focusing on AT across Education and Health boundaries or something. It doesnt have to be a big event - I guess it could be more informal with some round table discussions and some speakers. Just a wild thought off the top of my head. colin Clayton > The JISCMAIL based listserv dis-forum is the main forum for disability > officers working in universities and colleges. Many education-based > assistive tech people also subscribe to this list. > > If someone posts details of the RAATE conference to this list, the message > can be forwarded onto dis-forum. > Ian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harbach Geoff" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 6:02 PM > Subject: Re: AT in Education > > >> How many other listservers are there, a number of other >> people/professions >> cross post to ASSISTECH, why don't we do the same in return, (perhaps we >> do >> already). >> >> This would seem to be an inexpensive way of advertising the forthcoming >> RAATE conference. >> >> Perhaps we could have a theme of "Broadening the Boundaries" and invite >> some >> AT practitioners from the field of education or maybe some teachers/head >> teachers etc. >> >> Given the drive for social inclusion, with the DDA and the SENDA, >> perhaps >> we >> should pro-actively be going to the schools and colleges and saying, >> "look, >> this is what technology could do for your students!" >> >> Just a thought, >> >> Geoff >> >> G.J.Harbach I.Eng MIED IIPEM >> Clinical Technologist >> Special Controls Service Manager >> Posture & Mobility Services >> West Midlands Rehabilitation Centre >> 91 Oak Tree Lane, Selly Oak >> Birmingham, B29 6JA >> Tel 0121 627 8941 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Colin Clayton >> Sent: 05 April 2005 17:45 >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: AT in Education >> >> >> It could be - if it wasn't. It certainly tries to but advertising is >> expensive. >> >> At 11:02 05/04/2005, you wrote: >>>Simon >>> >>>Any multi sector meeting with a good agenda would be useful & well >>>attended. Is the RAATE meeting advertised multi sector, I wonder? >>> >>>Barry >>> >>>Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist >>>Medical Physics Department >>>Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary >>>Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ >>>Tel 01482 675928, fax 01482 675750 >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. >>>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Judge Simon >>>Sent: 05 April 2005 09:29 >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: Re: AT in Education >>> >>> >>>Yes, I thought the last meeting was useful, if only for actually meeting >>>some people from other sectors that i'd not met before. Your AT qual is >>>an >>>excellent example of ways of pulling people in from other sectors. It'd >>>be >>>a challenge to bash out a decent agenda and decide the objectives of the >>>meeting >>> >>>Such a meeting would work if we could guarantee people from other >>>sectors - >>>i.e. maybe advertising on SENIT / IT-ASSIST / AbilityNet / .... ? >>> >>>Anyone else interested? (-: >>> >>>Cheers >>> >>>Simon >>> >>>Clinical Scientist >>>ACT >>>0121 627 1627 ex 53245 >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. >>>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Doyle >>>Sent: 04 April 2005 15:08 >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: AT in Education >>> >>> >>>Simon, >>> >>>You and Guy have highlighted a need for some type of gathering to >>>establish >>>a dialogue between all relevant and interested groups (it surely must be >>>bigger than the social medical and educational sectors). Last year >>>Hereward >>>College hosted a multi disciplinary meeting in order to assess the need >>>for >>>accreditied training in AT. Do you chaps, and the Assistech gang think >>>another open forum style meeting would be of use? It would give us an >>>opportunity to get the ball rolling with the communication issue. As >>> well >> as >>>let anyone who is interested see where we have got to in terms of >>>producing >>>a generic AT qual. This is just a suggestion and we would need to sort >>> out >>>funding etc. but I am willing to put my money... (meeting room really!) >>>where my mouth is. >>> >>>Let us know what you think. >>> >>>Cheers >>> >>>Paul >> >> >> >> Colin Clayton BSc, CEng, MIEE, MIPEM >> Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children >> The Wolfson Centre >> Mecklenburgh Square >> London WC1N 2AP >> Tel: 020 7837 7618 >> Fax: 020 7833 9469 >> visit www.wisedx.com >> email: [log in to unmask] > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 7209 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! >