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Dear colleagues Following on from recent discussions with our renal team, I wondered how UK labs (and any other who may be interested in contributing) are progessing with this. Despite attendings some talks on this subject and reading the literature, I'm still not sure what actually happens in practice at the moment. Our team are very keen to take this up, despite the problems as they feel it would still be superior to the Cockroft and Gault that they currently use. Whilst on a renal theme, do any of have experience with random urinary total protein to creatinine ratios, as an alternative to 24h urine protein estimation, in patients with known renal failure? One of our renal physicians has come from a hospital where this is used, and is interested in using it here. For those of you who may report this, what reference range do you use? Thanks in anticipation Avril Avril Wayte Ysybyty Gwynedd Bangor North Wales ------ACB discussion List Information-------- This is an open discussion list for the academic and clinical community working in clinical biochemistry. Please note, archived messages are public and can be viewed via the internet. Views expressed are those of the individual and they are responsible for all message content. ACB Web Site http://www.acb.org.uk List Archives http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/ACB-CLIN-CHEM-GEN.html List Instructions (How to leave etc.) http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/