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"Sirk is often given as a counter-example: the films can seem slyly designed to work against genre expectations. 'Subversive' is the usual word." - E. Yes, this is the experience I got when I watched the films @ LACMA. When Jane Wyman said, "So you want me to be a man" to Rock the whole theatre erupted into big laughs - couldn't hear the next lines completely different from the experience my Aunt had when she watched the film in the time period of the original release; she was one of the weepers that gave Sirk's movies the weeipe title back in the day. * * Film-Philosophy Email Discussion Salon. After hitting 'reply' please always delete the text of the message you are replying to. To leave, send the message: leave film-philosophy to: [log in to unmask] For help email: [log in to unmask], not the salon. **