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It was good to hear Grace Davie on the BBC radio 4 Sunday programme yesterday discussing why America and Europe are so different in the relation between religion and politics.. There has been a disccussion on the Christian - Sociologist list and the ACTS-Talk list of the association of Christians teacxhing sociology under the thread title Four More years.. If any socrel reader would like to follow it (or even add to it) you will find it at this web address http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/christian-sociologist.html under November 2004 Greg Smith (Senior Research Fellow at Centre for Institutional Studies in UEL) http://homepages.uel.ac.uk/G.Smith/ 34 Broadgate PRESTON Lancs. PR1 8DU Phone no. 01772 827987