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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture A wonderful dragon in the history of Saint Romain (first ? bishop of Rouen. Some wonderful stained-glasses in the cathedral, mostly of the 16th century. The dragon is held by the bishop's stole, as usual as it seems. you can see a lot of the stained glasses in the url under. http://www.rouen-histoire.com/Saint-Romain/Vitraux.htm cordially (Thanks to Marjorie... :-) *********************** N'en sai plus dire *********************** Denis Hüe, responsable du Master Lettres Langues Communication Centre d'Etude des Textes Médiévaux, (CETM-CELAM) Université de Haute Bretagne http://www.uhb.fr/alc/medieval ----- Original Message ----- From: Cormack, Margaret Jean <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [M-R] dragons medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture And I have seen St. Margaret portrayed with her dragon on an elegant leash with (I think) a jewelled collar. Hagiography society members who were at the Budapest conference will remember this! Meg ________________________________ From: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture on behalf of John Dillon Sent: mán. 1.11.2004 21:21 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [M-R] saints of the day 1. November medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Maddy Gray wrote: > St Armel does the same. In English iconography he is depicted with a > diminutive dragon on a string, looking for all the world as though > he is > saying 'Walkies ...' . Of course, not all dragons on a string represent a saintly subduing. Years ago my wife and I were pleased to observe in the Jardin de la Fontaine at Nimes a flattish red metal sculpture of a reptile of some sort with open toothy jaws, tied by a chain to a tree some distance away. Our first thought, that this was someone's jeu d'esprit involving a dragon chained up as though a pet dog, was of course quite wrong (as those familiar with Nimes and its history as Roman Nemausus may have already guessed). Rather, it was a modern version of the crocodile chained to a palm tree, locally famous from a coin of Octavian honoring the city's ex-legionary colonists, shown here in the original: http://www.thall.net/augustus%20ric%20159.htm and here from another copy (a reproduction?): http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ekondrat/Augustus/Col_Nem.jpg Another modern version (from a divers' club) is here: http://nemausus.plongee.free.fr/fichindex/entree.htm Iconography can be so treacherous when one lacks the proper context. Best, John Dillon ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html