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Hi, As I wrote directly to Miho I wonder if this isn't a "travelling myth". Its origin might in this case be that which is addressed in this article. http://www.ircm.qc.ca/bioethique/obsgenetique/cadrages/cadr2002/c_no5_02/ca_ no5_02_1.html On the other hand we have the Australian case were a couple wanted screening through pre-implantation genetic diagnostics to ensure the birth of a deaf child. http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5141232%255E421,00.html I find it interesting as something connected with the present cure debate. It seems to imply that a cure is essentially something which would create the wished for result - participation in social relations. And cure could just as well be replaced with "becoming" a completely different person - as in aborting a non-wanted child for a wanted or making sure through pgd about a wanted child. Especially in view of the quote: "Nancy Rarus, a staff member at the National Association of the Deaf, said it was not unusual for deaf people to want deaf children but said she regretted the decision. "I'm a social animal, and it's very difficult for me to talk to my neighbours. I wish I could walk up to somebody and ask for information," she said. "I've had a lot of arguments in the deaf community about that. People talk about, 'the sky's the limit,' but being deaf prevents you from getting there. You don't have as many choices. I can't understand why anybody would want to bring a disabled child into the world." Here is the limit to societal adaptation, I think. If a deaf person lived in a society were communication wasn't based on "oral mode" but on "physical" as signing. They would be able to participate in any social communication. On the other hand if sign language was the norm I would not be able to "talk" since I can't use my fingers. Would that involve perceiving me as having a "speech impairment"? And someone who's blind would not be able to "hear". Would they be perceived as "hearing impaired"? Susanne ------------------------------------------------------- Susanne Berg Luntmakargatan 86 A 113 51 STOCKHOLM Sweden telephone/fax +46 (0)8 15 73 54mobile phone +46 (0)70 515 73 56 e-mail [log in to unmask] ________________End of message______________________ Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List are now located at: www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page.