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John, The bit about nothing for on-call is unlikely to be true, but I'm prepared to be corrected. You should be getting an on-call supplement with the new contract which covers the inconvenience of the on-call and is based on the frequency of the on-call rota and whether you usually return to the hospital or give telephone advice. As I am on a 1:3 and usually return to the hospital it is worth 8% of my basic salary to me. After that it is up to you and the Trust to come up with a figure in PAs that represents the actual time you spend working during the on-call period, either unpredictably (most of A&E) or predictably (weekend ward rounds?). Whether taking phone calls at all counts as work is open to debate as it could be argued that has been covered in the supplement (it does however class as work for EWTD but that, again, is another story!). We have negotiated a payment of one PA a week for this, which in our current cuircumstances seems adequate. I think some confusion arises from the old contract when a consultant on a 1:3 could argue for 2 sessions to cover 'on-call' and this was often to cover the inconvenience and the actual work. Many people were working in excess of this and felt rightly agrieved, the new contract has given them the opportunity to get recognition for this work. Others may have taken the 2 sessions and done very little on-call 'work' for it and now they find themselves faced with ~2PAs in their contract that they need to justify. This isn't hard, as they will have been doing more than enough work in the day, but they might feel that their on-call payment has been removed, it hasn't. I suppose the bottom line is, if you fall in to the first group use the new contract to get paid for what you do; if you fall in to the second group, use the new contract to establish that that is the limited cover you are prepared to provide and stick to it. Either way you win. Simon McCormick Rotherham Hospital P.S. I'm sure if I've got this wrong Adrian or Andrew will correct me (and they might agree!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John PASKINS" <[log in to unmask]> To: "Simon Mccormick" <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:04 AM Subject: Re: Job Plans[Scanned] Doc's point well made. Anyone care to offer guidance to us? 100,000 patients p.a.(including our MIU) 3 consultants; and we have been told the offer will be 7.5 DCC and 2.5 supporing PA. Nothing for on-call, nothing for prospective cover, clinical or admin. Seems a bit mean to us, but more important how attractive is it for the SpRs out there who would be asked to replace one of the existing posts at present covered by a locum?(please contact us if you fancy being one of three consultants providing services to 100,000 new patients a year on two sites)