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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Two brief points: the original "voodoo" mention was not mine exactly but that of the persons responsible for posting the photo; along with the crutches, etc. was a prominent statue of Saint Lucy (I suppose) holding a pair of eyeballs in a plate. MG -- "John B. Dillon" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Marjorie's "cluttered chapels" posting showed a photograph of a chapel in New Orleans http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/6157/st_roch3.html in which one can see crutches and braces as well as what I take to be body-part ex votos. The latter are well known from Greek and Roman antiquity and their use is evidently much older than that. But the particular practice of which I was speaking was that indicated in my altered Subject line: leaving crutches, braces, walkers, etc. as ex votos. Here's a modern example (also from the formerly French New World) focusing on these alone: http://www.kensmen.com/catholic/crutchesofsteannedebeaupre2.jpg There's plenty of Old World evidence too for these as ex votos (and by no means restricted to Italy, which I cited by way of example in response to Marjorie's mention of voodoo). But what evidence do we have that they were also widely used in this fashion in Greek and Roman antiquity? And when and where do we begin to hear of their use as ex votos medievally? Best again, John Dillon At 03:44 PM 7/31/2004 -0500, Jim wrote: >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > > > This particular practice is very common in Italy, > > > > i believe that the custom was a universal. > >It was also a very old practice that was widespread at both Roman and Greek >healing shrines -- one of many synchretistic devotional practices found in >medieval >religion, and beyond. ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today! ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html