medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dear List-members: I'm up to my ears in alligators that accumulated by taking time for this thread, but my goodness, I have to send this. I do try, but still manage to miss here and there to explicitly state something that to me is obvious: it's the "doesn't everybody know that" syndrome. I should have caught it after the misunderstanding. Talk about being at cross-purposes! In spite of all my examples being illustrations of it, failure to explicitly state the following registered on me only yesterday. Please accept my apologies. To sum up: As in the Semitic tradition, all early Christian use of the shape of the law is on a *flat* background: drawn on codices and MSS, inscribed on funerary markers cut to the right shape, etc. Even the front of a tunnel church is a flat surface. (It is hard to think of more concrete evidence of where from, why, and how the shape came into Christian use than the tunnel church.) Every architectural use of the shape is merely flat outline in frontal view. All of them, including the Gothic example of the soaring narrow windows topped by the Semitic arch at Amiens, the colonnade on the Basilica, the statuary niches, and the painted arches mentioned by Christopher Crockett are flat when viewed from the front. If anybody wants to separate Greco-Roman influences from the Semitic in the Christian world in this respect, it is very easy to do.* Just be sure that the item under examination is not post mid-14th to 15th century on the Continent (depending on where) or post mid-17th century in England when the symbolism was lost and it became this is the way we always do it. Stated concisely: 1) The Semitic "hand of god" is a combination of the arched roof of the 'house of god' architecture set on top of the high place of the god. The high place is represented by a "high" and narrow column. Whatever is within or under the arch is also flat and, on stone, at most in low-relief (as on the sculpture at the top on the Hammurabi stele or the Ninveh example**). 2) The Etrusco-Greco-Roman "hand of god" is a combination of the pediment of temple architecture and the sacred cave. The entry to a sacred cave is represented by colonnades that shadow the entry portal. Within the temple (i.e., inner cave as in, for example, the "Birthplace of Zeus" on Mount Ida in Crete) artifacts are in-the-round. In Christian statuary niches (hollows) the shape is still an in-the-flat from frontal view Semitic arch of the shape of "The" Law. The Greco-Roman addition is the niche itself, the "sacred cave." Use of the niche is choice by affiliation. Please note that in the Greek Orthodox Church in-the-flat under the arch was, and still is, the choice by affiliation. (Aesthetics has nothing to do with the choice; religious affiliation rules choices such as this. Aesthetics enters in execution of the choice - this is not the same thing at all.) Sorry folks for being such a clutz as to not state this loud and clear; sure would have saved a lot of bandwidth. Rochelle * John, the answer to your question, "Rochelle, can you pinpoint regional influence more closely than that?" is: Yes, of course we can pinpoint much closer than unspecified generalizations. ** Chris, the Ninveh stele is a solid block in the shape of "the" Law with Nimrud carved in low-relief. The edge is plain and simply a frame left after excision. The other tablets are rectangular in shape and signify the profane realm. Just as xenographic exchange was sufficient to distinguish the sacred realm from the profane in writing, the arched shape was considered sufficient to distinguish the sacred from the profane in architecture, sculpture, and writing. The origins of decorative "columns" lie elsewhere -- perhaps in Etruscan or Zoroastrian conventions -- or both, depending upon affiliation. ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html