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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Amen to Dennis' usual good sense and scholarly contribution to the list. MG -- Dennis Martin <[log in to unmask]> wrote: medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Quite frankly I find the tone and content here offensive. The Vatican conference presumably involved scholars working along the same lines as those who have produced a body of revisionist studies on the various inquisitions (Peters, Kamen, Tedeschi and others) over the last three decades. The revisionism was long overdue because of the distorted and exaggerated view of the inquisitions that had become conventional in the 18th and 19th centuries and is now endemic in popular culture. WIthout having seen the papers, why mock the conference or its proceedings? If a conference convoked by one of our professional societies or one of our major universities had announced the publication of its proceedings with similar generalizations, would you not at least have reserved judgment until you had seen the volume? And what does contemporary geopolitics (and ecclesial-politics) have to do with any of this? The joke works only if one asumes that everyone on the list shares the same geopolitical assumptions. Dennis Martin >>> [log in to unmask] 06/16/04 9:38 AM >>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture "Thomas L. Long" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Perhaps the Vatican has employed researchers from the Bush State Department? no, no. State is *much* too reliable for this level of Revisionist Fantasy. sounds more like an in-house, NeoCon Pentagon piece of work, to me. (especially the part about, "Well, yeah, sure it was a bad thing to do, but, hey, stuff like that happens in Dark Ages ; and, besides, it wasn't as bad as the Liberal Press made it out to be, and *could* have been a lot worse, if Sathanas were still in Power.") or maybe even something dreamt by the guy who scripted the recent, week-long-but-interminable "Apotheosis of St. Ronnie" Media Event which those of us in the U.S. were recently subjected to. not to forget --and certainly not coincidental with this Vatican announcement-- that The Duhbya Hisownself paid the Papa a visit last week (where, word is, he complained that he wasn't getting sufficient help from the U.S. Heirarcy in his campaign as he thought he deserved, being a good son of some church or other, to say nothing of happening to be in Direct Communication with Yahway Himself). c "What about the older ones [Indians] ?" "Well, we can't seem to cure them of the idea that our Everyday Life is only an Illusion, behind which is the Reality of Dreams" --Werner Herzog's "Fitzcarraldo" http://us.imdb.com/Title?0083946 ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today! ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html