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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture there was also an article on this subject in speculum in the late 90s. the translator was a mathematician i seem to recall..

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He patronized the Ketton translation, done in Toledo;  see
Peter the Venerable and Islam.
Author:
Kritzeck, James.
Subjects:
Peter, the Venerable, ca. 1092-1156.
Christianity and other religions -- Islam
Islam -- Relations -- Christianity
Publisher:
Princeton, N.J., Princeton University Press, 1964.

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Peter the Venereal translate the Koran?  I usually ignore medieval
venereals,
venerables, and venarials unless--if he did translate the Koran or even
part of
it he becomes of interest to me.

V. K. Inman

Quoting Christopher Crockett <[log in to unmask]>:

  
medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
    
culture
  
Jonathan Hall <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

    
I was wondering if anyone knew offhand of evidence that Christian
      
Europe was aware of coffee before the sixteenth century (through
Christian-Muslim contact in Spain or through travels to N. Africa or
the Middle East).


well, the story i have is that Peter the Venereal became aware of it
    
during
  
the course of his project of translating the Koran, but didn't
    
realise what
  
he
had until his friend, Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair, on his way to Rome in
    
1139,
  
turned *his* friend Bernie onto it as a fine medium for diluting his
    
Irish
  
whiskey a bit (and thereby lengthening the Holy Man's life by,
    
perhaps,
  
decades).

not to be out done, Abelard adapted it for Calvados dilution, as
    
well; to
  
which expropriation Bernie took Great Umbridge (thus, the *real* root
    
of the
  
animosity between them).

documentation is difficult to come by, but i'm sure that something
    
like this
  
must have been what happened.

all this will no doubt be the subject of a chapter in the
    
forthcomming book
  
on
_Twelfth Century Networking: How It Worked_, by one of our new list
    
members.
  
best from here,

christopher


"What about the older ones [Indians] ?"

"Well, we can't seem to cure them of the idea that our Everyday Life
    
is only
  
an Illusion, behind which is the Reality of Dreams"

--Werner Herzog's "Fitzcarraldo"
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