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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dear Marjorie!

Sorry for being on this list quite rarely (too much business) and sorry for producing rather unrespectful comments about famous abbots. As regards A’s and B’s health habits, both men were too busy, self-forgetting and austere for enjoying Brenda’s marvellous five o’clock tea (biscuits incl.). One can find many hints for these attitudes in their writings (A: HC, letters, B: letters and vitae). William of St Thierry wrote (in the vita prima) that Bernard was rather dyspeptic because he preferred to drink water and oil and to eat uncooked bacon rind, and B wrote in his last letter to Arnold of Bonneval wrote that he was vomiting all day and night (I suppose, from stomach ulcer or cancer). That would have never happened to a passionate tea drinker. But, as Christopher has pointed it out, in the case of B, secret consumption of too much coffee (I add: and/or whiskey) would be thinkable ;-)).

PV on his part was very anxious about his health: He had his private doctor (Bartholomew, a capacity of Salerno), he avoided epidemics of typhus in Cluny by choosing temporarily an eremitic life, he abhorred any journey to the Holy See in summer, after having been infected by malaria there etc etc. On visiting Brenda 5 o’clock tea, he would have asked for hot herb tea (peppermint or so), because he also suffered from severe COPD and he would have enjoyed the inhalation. I have written some longer articles, containing informations about B’s, A’s and PV’s health problems (in German), but I think this is a little out of common interest and I can send it off-list, if you like it. 

Greetings 

Werner 

PS: Welcome to the new list member, Prof. Haseldine, whose edition of the letters of Peter of Celle (I suppose, a former student of Abelard) has provided many precious informations for Abelardian resp. Heloisian research (as a sarcastic reply of PoC to a perditum of the abbess of the Paraclete, both hitherto unnoticed). Many thanks!

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I am shocked, shocked that my two staunchest fellow Abelardophiles would say such things: ;-))
Werner, Just out of curiosity, where did you find info on Abelard's and Bernard's health habits?
MG
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