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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dennis Martin wrote: > > How does this differ from contemporary Episcopalian practice? Well, > that's another topic, but the main point is that Cranmer rejected the > sacrifice of the Mass and real presence, though (cognoscenti please > correct me if I'm wrong here), Henry VIII and others held on to largely > Catholic views on this. With Edward VI Cranmer and the radicals gained > the upper hand so that the mid-century settlement (Thirty-Nine Articles) > would seem, prima facie, to reject both sacrifice and Real Presence. It is probably a good idea to leave Henry VIII out of it - he would not have regarded himself as either a Protestant or a Reformer. Whether Cranmer rejected the real presence is somewhat moot - his actual sticking point was transubstantiation. Elizabeth I probably believed in the real presence, but not transubstantiation. The Orthodox churches saves themselves a lot of trouble by not using the term 'transubstantiation' :-) John Briggs ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html