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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Gorgeous prayer. Anyone know who composed it? MG p.s. Thanks -- merum <[log in to unmask]> wrote: medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture (from memory) In paradisum deducant te angeli In tuo adventu suscipiant te martyres et perducant te in civitatem sanctam Jerusalem. Chorus angelorum te suscipiat Et cum Lazaro quondam paupere aeternum habeas requiem. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marjorie Greene" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [M-R] fight over the soul at death & particular judgment > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > I would venture to say that the "decision" is made by God and the struggles between angels and demons are flights of imagers' fancies. I haven't run across any description or discussion of the manner in which the decision is conveyed. (See the tympanum at Autun and the death of the Evil Rich Man at Moissac at http://www.art-roman.net.) The beautiful prayer "In paradisum," whose exact words I know not either in English or Latin, recited at funerals (and by my father at my mother's deathbed) calls upon the angels to conduct the soul of the departed into paradise. But that is the extent of angels' function RE the deceased. The angel/demon struggle in western art is thought to have been inspired by the weighing of souls motif in Egyptian funerary decoration. > I hope you get some more learned responses from others on the list. > MG > > -- acidophilus <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > I am trying to understand the way in which the particular judgment is > conveyed to the demon and the angel battling over the soul right after > death. When someone dies, the soul separates and the "disputatio animae" > begins between the angel(s) and the demon(s). Yet at some point it > becomes clear what the judgment is and one of the two sides wins. > > Any bibliographical suggestions would be much appreciated. > > Manu Radhakrishnan > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today! > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today! ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html