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Ian, what you are seeing in the VO view is just the sites that support that VO. Within the site you are seeing everything, all jobs etc, not just those belonging to your VO. That is the LCG GridICE server, hosted by RAL, not a RAL site. As part of the EGEE SA1 stuff we will probably do a GridPP or UK/Ireland one. I doubt there will ever be an all-singing all-pfdancing monitoring package. Monitoring does too may things. GridICE is good at what it does but it only covers a particular part of the space. John >-----Original Message----- >From: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian Stokes-Rees >Sent: 14 May 2004 14:34 >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: GridICE > > >Hi everyone, > >I think GridICE is fantastic. I hope >Ganglia/Nagios/RRDtool/R-GMA can all be combined into a single >all singing all dancing Grid Monitoring package. I have just >been pointed to the RAL GridICE site: > >http://grid-ice.esc.rl.ac.uk/gridice/site/site.php > >I don't quite understand what I am looking at in the VO view: > >http://grid-ice.esc.rl.ac.uk/gridice/vo/vo.php?VOname=lhcb# > >specifically the VO Jobs Graph. There are specifically three >things which confuse me: > >1. What users from LHCb have submitted 500 running jobs, and >where have the 1000 waiting jobs come from? > >2. Why is it that all the other VOs seem to have *exactly* the >same number of jobs in running and waiting states? > >3. When there are so many free resources, why are so many jobs >(2/3rds) in a waiting state? Since there are supposedly 2000+ >CPUs on line now for LCG, I would have thought LCG would not >have *any* waiting jobs, unless they had very extreme/strange >requirements. > >Cheers, > >Ian. > >-- >Ian Stokes-Rees [log in to unmask] >Particle Physics, Oxford http://www-pnp.physics.ox.ac.uk/~stokes >