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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture After combing through the indices of what seems like a zillion books (in English), none published after about 1955 refers to *the* Auvergne. All others skip the "the." Though hardly a scholarly source, one might consult the following: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Discount_Hotels-g187090-Auvergne.html This might be a tad more serious: http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Auvergne Then there's the good ole' Yahoo Encyclopedia: http://dir.yahoo.com/regional/countries/france/regions/auvergne/ To be sure, one may find a "the" here and there, but there's absolutely no reason for its presence before "Auvergne." The French don't put an "l," in front of the name except when it's the subject of a sentence or a title or a heading: http://www.cr-auvergne.fr/fr/index.asp Here's the English version of same: http://www.cr-auvergne.fr/uk/index.asp As for possible relevance of names ending in "ie" in French and "y" in English, no one (I hope) speaks of "the" Poitou. If you do, see (and enjoy and drool): http://www.a-castle-for-rent.com/castles/abbeys.htm You'll have to scroll down a bit for Poitou, but it's worth the trip. MG ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - NetZero HiSpeed! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month -visit www.netzero.com to sign up today! ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html