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Hi Martin thanks for the reply, and the info about Mill Collections, though chasing that up will probably have to be a later phase in our SMR Enhancement. best wishes Nick Boldrini SMR Computing Officer Heritage Unit North Yorkshire County Council Direct Dial (01609) 532331 http://www.northyorks.gov.uk/environment/heritage.shtm#Archaeology North Yorkshire County Council has the right and does inspect E-Government mails sent from and to its computer system. >>> [log in to unmask] 15/04/2004 09:37:59 >>> Nick, Thanks for a posting that doesn't seek to restart the war of the roses! When indexing the listed building system we created a separate phase (mon type and date for each use of a building or phase of construction. For example a mill built in 1700 with alterations in 1750 which went out of use and became a hose in 1850 would have 3 phases: MILL 1700 MILL 1750 HOUSE 1850 A break in use for milling would not make any difference to the structure of the monument where as alternative use would so I'd record milling dates in the text. Interestingly there's a large archive of windmill photos (the Symonds collection) at the NMR that might be of interest to you in your enhancement project. Martin ----------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Newman Heritage Information Partnerships Supervisor National Monuments Record English Heritage Phone - 01793 414718 Fax - 01793 414770 Email - [log in to unmask] Join the HELPs email list at www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/helps.html -----Original Message----- From: Nick Boldrini [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 15 April 2004 09:35 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Building Records in SMR's Hello Folks I have recently imported a load of Mill data into our (HB)SMR. As part of the post import clean up I got to thinking (always dangerous..., I'll learn to stop doing it one day). What I imported was Windmill and Watermill data. For many of these we have a variety of dates - built date, date stopped milling, date demolished etc. Some of these monuments are still extant buildings and some of the dates refer to the building as a structure whilst other dates relate to its use as a mill. Is there any view on how these differences should be recorded? For example the end date of the milling is about use, but for the extant examples there is as yet no end date really as the building still exists. Should two Monument types be created to record details of the use as opposed to the structure (IE one as building with start and end dates as appropriate, and one as watermill with start and end dates of it being a mill) but even then this might be the start and end date of cereal milling, and the extant structure is still a water mill. Obviously this has implications for how we record buildings, and can think of my own ideas, just wanted to see if anyone else has thought about this or are you all too busy with other things? thanks best wishes Nick Boldrini SMR Computing Officer Heritage Unit North Yorkshire County Council Direct Dial (01609) 532331 http://www.northyorks.gov.uk/environment/heritage.shtm#Archaeology North Yorkshire County Council has the right and does inspect E-Government mails sent from and to its computer system.