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Hi Lorna I think this is an excellent suggestion and fully support adding Paul's suggestion to UK LOM Core. Suzanne -- Suzanne Hardy Information Officer/C&IT Manager LTSN-01 16/17 Framlington Place University of Newcastle Newcastle upon Tyne, NE2 4AB Tel: +44 191 222 5888 Fax: +44 191 222 5016 email: [log in to unmask] web: www.ltsn-01.ac.uk Direct line: +44 191 246 4550 __________________________________ 2004 LTSN-01 mini-project call: DEADLINE 28th MAY 2004 http://www.ltsn-01.ac.uk/resources/proposals/miniprojects4 Lorna Campbell wrote: > Hi there, > > Just back from CEN/ISSS in Essen and playing catch up with my mail.... > I see that the dreaded Technical.Format debate has reared it's ugly > head again while I've been away. I'm still inclined to keep this > element as mandatory within the UK LOM Core despite Phil's > reservations. However I agree that this element can cause problems > when cataloguing resources with multiple mime types. I rather like > Paul's suggestion of recommending the use of application/X-unknown when > the relevant MIME types can not be identified for what ever reason. I > know this is a bit of a kludge but it seems to be a fairly sensible one > never the less. I have finished the second draft of the UK LOM Core > and will be circulating it shortly however I would be happy to add > Paul's suggestion to the guidelines for this element if it would be of > help. What do other list members think? > > Bye > Lorna > > On 27 Apr 2004, at 22:08, Paul Hollands wrote: > >> Thanks Phil, >> >> I agree that in terms of the RLLOMAP removing the mandatory >> requirement for >> technical.format would be the most helpful approach so it can be left >> blank. >> >> If that is not possible then maybe we recommend the use of >> application/X-unknown where >> no correct MIME type can be discerned. >> >> Cheers. >> >> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 21:37:50 +0100, Phil Barker <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> Paul Hollands wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Phil, >>>> >>>> Second dumb question: >>>> >>>> We also need a way to put an entry in even when the MIME type is >>>> unknown. I have seen application/unknown used before in brower >>>> configurations but I have a suspicion this a Microsoft kludge rather >>>> than an acceptable MIME type. Do you think we should suggest putting >>>> this into technical.format where it is unclear what the MIME type is >>>> and >>>> the cataloguer doesn't have the resources to find out for certain? >>>> >>> I can't find application/unknown in the IANA list, so >>> application/X-unknown >>> would be a better kludge. >>> >>> I have thought in the past of using multipart/mixed, but would not >>> recmmend this >>> since technical.format is supposed to list the mime types of all the >>> parts of a >>> resource, not the aggregate. >>> >>> Leaving the element blank would seem to me to be the best option, if >>> your >>> application profile doesn't let you do that then I guess you have the >>> choice of >>> either putting in the effort to find out what the mime type is or >>> trying to >>> change the application profile. [For what it is worth, I have never >>> been too >>> happy about it being mandatory in the UK LOM Core, for the type of >>> cataloguing I >>> have been involved in (e.g. of web sites), it has not been easy to >>> find all the >>> MIME types involved, and knowing them doesn't help much.] >>> >>> Sorry, that probably doesn't help you much :( >>> >>> Phil. >>> >>> -- >>> Phil Barker Learning Technology Advisor >>> ICBL, School of Mathematics and Computer Science >>> Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh, EH14 4AS >>> Tel: work - 0131 451 3278 home - 0131 221 1352 >>> Web: http://www.icbl.hw.ac.uk/~philb/ >> >> >> > > -- > Lorna M. Campbell > Assistant Director > Centre for Educational Technology Interoperability Standards (CETIS) > Centre for Academic Practice, University of Strathclyde > +44 (0)141 548 3072 > http://www.cetis.ac.uk/ > >