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We are currently meeting with the PCT for reorganisation of 'unscheduled ' care.  According to a GP at these meetings the local GP registrars have to do atleast 20 hours of emergency care....a year!  Astounding and guaranteed to ensure none of them will want to do any out of hours work in the future!
 
Simon McCormick
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From: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">David Cartlidge
To: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Simon Mccormick
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: GP in A/E[Scanned]

I believe that the fundamental issue is whether "emergency" GP OOH is sufficiently similar daytime "emergency" primary care such the same  competencies are required. I am concerned that as the majority of GPs become  daytime chronic disease managers their value to out of hours care may be jeopardised by too infrequent exposure. If  "emergency" GP OOH  defaults to non GPVTS doctors assisted by Emergency Primary Care Practitioners there will need to be robust nationwide  triage criterea back to daytime Primary Care without being seen at thye point of contact by the Emergency OOH team. If this is not in place there is a risk of a drift of daytime  primary care to the  Emergency OOH team because it will be much more convenient to a large proportion of patients who misguidedly do not value continuity of care offered by daytime primary care.
The other alternative would be to introduce a deterrent fee to PCTs / LHBs or the patient if they opt to have non urgent primary care treated by the Emergency OOH Team because they do not perceive that daytime primary care is meeting their needs.

I would be very interested to opinions on
(1) Is there a need for GPVTS trained doctors in Emergency OOH Primary Care or does this need a different training programme.

(2) Are the current NHS Direct Criterea for referral of enquiries back to daytime  primary adequate for  use  at the  Emergency OOH Team Triage point.