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It is sad and has nothing to do with equality when people slag other users off for their ethnicity, impairment or sex/gender etc. Things that people can't change. All men are the sons of women. An argument is strong, because it is right, nothing else matters. I have never been a member of the UIPS, however, I was around when the long discussions took place and many women took part in the discussions, including current female leaders of the disabled peoples community. The discussion was supported by historical evidence. Ms Tremain arguments are not. This newsgroup is called 'Disability Research', I suggest that Ms Tremain does some, before she shares any more uninformed arguments and takes up yet more bandwidth. Keith On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:22:15 -0800 , Shelley Lynn Tremain <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >its male-dominated and pseudo-Marxist beginnings. -- War makes people ill. ___________________________________________________ Build strong relationships with your customers on Officemaster. Free trial! http://www.officemaster.net ________________End of message______________________ Archives and tools for the Disability-Research Discussion List are now located at: www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/disability-research.html You can JOIN or LEAVE the list from this web page.