Talking about things that Google say don't make a difference but do really you should consider running a Google adwords campaign for a bit. I swear that improves ranking in the main results. Paul Paul Boag [ Director ] H E A D S C A P E Web: strategy, usability, design, development, marketing. <http://www.headscape.co.uk/> www.headscape.co.uk <http://www.headscape.co.uk/> t: 02392 432 829 | m: 07760 123 120 Click here <http://chat.boldchat.com/chat/visitor.jsp?cdid=604667267> to speak to Paul in real time ________________________________ From: Managing an institutional web site [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike McConnell Sent: 04 November 2004 13:47 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: SEO Campaigns (Search Engine Optimisation)- request for information. I agree with Helen's comments, particularly re metadata. We've found that repeating the same words, in the same order, in the meta description, meta keyword, title and <h1> fields has improved our ranking, as has using the Google free University search as our main site search engine. Whatever you do, don't pay some SEO company to do it for you! Cheers, Mike - try to mess with your page organsiation as little as possible. The longer your urls stay the same, the more links build up and the higher your recognition goes. Fortunately for other reasons we have always bent over backwards to keep our urls the same, and it seems to have made a big difference. - make titles and headings as succinct as possible. In some parts of a page, the more words, the more dilution. Think of web pages as having high square-inch rental charge and use your words in the best way you can. - add metadata keyords and description anyway, even if seach engines say they don't use them. I don't believe anything they say about their algorithms as they want to head off the SEO companies. ********************************************************** Helen Varley Sargan Information Provision & Webmaster University Computing Service New Museums Site email [log in to unmask] Pembroke St [log in to unmask] Cambridge CB2 3QH Phone 01223 334480 ********************************************************** ------------ Mike McConnell Web Team Manager University of Aberdeen [log in to unmask] http://www.abdn.ac.uk/web/ Directorate of Information Systems and Services Edward Wright Building Dunbar Street Aberdeen AB24 3UF Tel: +44 (0)1224 27 2602 Fax: +44 (0)1224 27 3372