Dear Arjan, thanks for the citation. Greetings, Jana Arjan Gittenberger schrieb: > On page 736 of Harris(1992), it is written that > "Julius Caesar's wife is said to have eliminated his > rivals by serving them ascidians". Harris (use to > work/works? at the State University of New York) does > not cite his source. > > Kind regards, > Arjan > > C. Leon Harris, 1992. Concepts in zoology. Harper > Collins Publishers Inc., New York: 895pp, ISBN > 0-06-042659-4. > > --- "J.Barenbrock" <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > Dear Arjan, > > this would be perfect! As you said, it´s not what I > > was looking for, but > > it would be a wonderful introduction. So if it is > > not too much trouble I > > would be happy about this publication. > > > > Greetings, > > Jana > > > > > > Arjan Gittenberger schrieb: > > > > > Dear Jana, > > > > > > Although it might not be "the beginning" of > > "natural > > > product chemistry from tunicates", which you're > > > searching for... > > > The natural products/toxins in ascidians were > > already > > > used by the Romans. I remember a publication > > stating > > > that Julius Caesar used the toxin of tunicates to > > > eliminate opponents (e.g. after asking them over > > for > > > dinner). > > > It is not exactly the way that people want to > > use > > > the chemicals/compounds within tunicates nowadays > > :), > > > but it is probably the first time/way that people > > have > > > used the natural products of ascidians for a > > specific > > > purpose (& probably with much success). If you're > > > interested I can search for the article that > > mentions > > > this use. > > > > > > Kind regards > > > & good luck with your thesis, > > > > > > Arjan > > > > > > A. Gittenberger > > > PhD-student "Gastropod parasites and their coral > > > hosts" > > > (www.ascidians.com/oio/corals.htm) > > > National Museum of Natural History Naturalis > > > P.O. Box 9517, NL 2300 RA Leiden, The Netherlands > > > E-mail: [log in to unmask] > > > The Dutch Ascidians Website: www.ascidians.com > > > > > > --- "J.Barenbrock" > > <[log in to unmask]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear tunicata scientists, > > > > > > > > I am writing my PhD thesis on natural products > > from > > > > ascidinas and need > > > > help in the search for the first reported > > natural > > > > product from > > > > ascidians. Is there something like "the start" > > of > > > > natural product > > > > chemistry from tunicates which is connected to a > > > > specific compound? > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for help, > > > > Jana Barenbrock > > > > > begin:vcard > > > > n:; > > > > tel;work:0471-4831-1478 > > > > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > > > > org:Alfred-Wegener-Institut;Pelagische > > Ökosysteme > > > > version:2.1 > > > > email;internet:[log in to unmask] > > > > adr;quoted-printable:;;Am Handelshafen > > > > 12=0D=0A=0D=0A;Bremerhaven;;D-27570; > > > > end:vcard > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter > > now. > > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush > > > begin:vcard > > n:; > > tel;work:0471-4831-1478 > > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > > org:Alfred-Wegener-Institut;Pelagische Ökosysteme > > version:2.1 > > email;internet:[log in to unmask] > > adr;quoted-printable:;;Am Handelshafen > > 12=0D=0A=0D=0A;Bremerhaven;;D-27570; > > end:vcard > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail