1. Do you suffer from similar problems? Yes, California has a similar environment and problems. 2. Do you have any statistics on the occurrence of such accidents, say compared with "normal" winter (i.e. pavement surface "clean" but wet) conditions? We don't have such data but we will like to obtain such data too. The situation is more complicated in CA. After the rainfall, fogs will set in. The visibility decreases. The accidents increase. To separate the effect of fog versus the skid is very difficult to quantify. Skid test is only looking at the effect of water. But the result of oil and debris on the pavement is difficult to quantify. 3. Do you have any maintenance strategy to tackle this problem (i.e. water cleaning of critical areas – junctions,etc.) One of the crucial area is to clean all the drainage system inlets and outlets and clean the roadways as much as possible At the same time, the weather reporters in the TV stations will warn the public to drive safely in the first rainfall of the season. Informing the public and educating the public are the essential elements to this pursues. James N. Lee, PhD, PE, MASCE Division of Research and Innovation 5900 Folsom Blvd Sacramento CA 95819 שמעון נסיכי <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent by: "Technical, cc: operational and economic Subject: FIRST RAIN " SKIDDING ACCIDENTS" aspects of road freight transportation" <ROAD-TRANSPORT-TECHNOLOGY@JISC MAIL.AC.UK> 08/04/04 09:02 AM Please respond to שמעון נסיכי Dear Friends I have raised this topic several years ago and I am interested in any updated data. In our climate we suffer from about 8 consecutive dry (almost no rain) months. During this dry period the pavement surface gets contaminated and as a result during the first rain following the dry months there seem to be excessive number of skidding accidents. In that respect I would like to have your comments on the following questions: 1. Do you suffer from similar problems? 2. Do you have any statistics on the occurrence of such accidents, say compared with "normal" winter (i.e. pavement surface "clean" but wet) conditions? 3. Do you have any maintenance strategy to tackle this problem (i.e. water cleaning of critical areas – junctions,etc.) Thanks for your help Shimon Nesichi, M.Sc., Managing Director, Materials and Research Division, Public Works Department, Ben Zvi Rd. 55, POB 49057 Tel Aviv, 61940 Israel