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Dear Jean thank you very much for taking the time and the apology. just want to clarify something. and i will try to follow Lisa Simpson's style. to me, rules are guidances and guidances are what leadership is about. leaders are different from managers who are executives. execution is to do with policy and policing. the above is what i have in mind when i talked about rules and leadership. and i never mentioned policing. although i did mention power. my personal view on the relationship between list owners, list members, rules and policing is like this: the list owners are the ultimate power in the sense that they set the rules. list members are the mangers who police themselves by the rules. better? i hope this discussion is going somewhere from here on. rosan Jean Schneider wrote: But do you prefer a list in > which all posts will be submitted to censorship (who is the author, what > could s-he mean, etc...)? Personally, I don't. Personally, I prefer > parties in which people don't anxiously ask you "what are you doing" so > that they know how to normalize their interaction with you. In my view, > there is very little noise on this list.