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Glen i think your post is meant for the list, so i am relaying it to everyone. hope it is ok. nobody has ever asked me for advice on designing a lavatory, i am so flattered!!! i must first declare that i am not a product designer but i have plenty of experience in thinking about design when i am sitting ... you know where. i would like to throw some ideas, for fun... i suggest that we go for the sky... the restroom in the sky is interesting, because besides the seat, the restroom is really the only other place the passengers can be. it is therefore a very important place for the travelling experience (the buzzword these days). so i will suggest to think of the restroom not as a restroom, let it be.... a gym, a massage parlour, a library, a disco, a church... i learn that it is through reconceptualization of a design problem (what dick buchanan calls 'placement', david sless calls 'letness' and others call whatever they like) that innovative design ideas appear. rosan i am not in bremen, but a smaller city where people in the local pubs will look up when i enter. [log in to unmask] wrote: > Rosan, > > On a more serious note - I would welcome any advice about designing > 'restrooms in the sky' as to be honest its our first one. > > Handles, easy access and cleanability strike me as the most obvious, but > what would be your take? > > During my stint at Airbus there was a lot of talk of seperate lavs for men, > women, etc. > > PS. If you're based in Bremen you are close to one of theold Airbus/ MBB > design studios > > Glenn