Sorry folks.
 
I made an assumtion that everyone would understand A4C meant Agenda for Change and I should not have.
 
I think there is a danger here of pigeon holing NHS staff.
 
After experiencing a variety of places over the past couple of years and being very disatisfied and unhappy in the private sector, I have found the NHS a much more progressive proactive field than the vast majority of private companies.
 
To be honest I have found the dynamics of the NHS Occupational Health & Safety Service one of the fastest changing in a growing discipline. Our organisation has grown within the NHS from 6 to 110 people over the past 8 years and covers the whole of the health board, provides private industry and has a number of special projects on the go, some from the national public health agenda. It has developed its own quality system which has been acredited with the ISO 9001:2000 and the focus is very much on provision of a quality, effective and cost conscious service which will continue to develop and grow.
 
I'm sure there are places that are not very proactive, I have heard of a couple, but I am very aware that most NHS OH&S services are continuing to develop.
 
Regards
 
Craig
 
PS: I have a copy of the RCN's guidance for non NHS OH staff in pdf format. If anyone wants a copy email me direct.
 
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From: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Muir, Jackie
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Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: A4C

I couldn't agree more with your thoughts James - We have tried to get support and help through the RCN and in all cases this had met with a stonewall!
 
Regards
 
Jackie
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From: James Beresford [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 26 April 2004 13:16
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Subject: Re: A4C


David,

Oh, it's all well & good the RCN saying A4C will apply to the private sector, but they are hardly the best advocates for OH staff in industry at the best of times. I'll be intrigued to know of employers in industry who will happily adopt A4C for their OH staff.

With kind regards,


James Beresford
Occupational Health Advisor



"MASLEN-JONES David, Cinical Nurse Mgr" <[log in to unmask]>

26/04/2004 09:09
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A4C will affect nurses everywhere: The RCN have produced a booklet "Agenda for change and nurses employed outside of the NHS"
publ code 002 246
Available from RCN Direct  0845 772 6100
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From: Greta Thornbory [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 24 April 2004 13:03
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Subject: Re: A4C

Is it relevant to anyone working outside the NHS?
 
Greta
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Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 11:57 AM
Subject: A4C

Hi Folks
 
Whats your take on this agenda for change thing. I believe that the way things are going once (I say once as I don't believe it will not go ahead considering there is no back up plan) it is introduced, it looks increasingly likely that OH ans H&S job evaluations will be set at a local level.
 
I'd be interested in hearing opinions, even if it is just a soap box rant (if your not comfortable enough posting to the list I'd rather you emailed me direct than said nothing. I can always summarise things in a general post).
 
I would be very interested in hearing from anyone in one of the early implementer sites about their experiences.
 
Regards
 
Craig
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