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Dear All I am slightly worried about the tendency to jump to the conclusion that someone must be insulting them or taking the piss when they are not sure of what has been written . One disadvantage of the JISC mail is that we cannot pick up on non verbal cues, body language, facial expressions. As we are all intelligent highly motivated people(otherwise why would be tuning in) can I put forward the proposal that we give people the benefit of the doubt, see the glass half full rather than half empty etc. If you are unsure of the implications of a response, a private email to the individual for clarification, and /or to continue the row in private might be appropriate. Saghir, I do hope this perceived slight isn't why you are unsubscribing. I think the expression involving knitting more of whatever there is currently a shortage of originates from WWII and is perhaps better known among the more mature subscribers (in this sense I mean older , not necessarily better behaved!). The follow up email about someone's mother probably having the pattern made me howl with laughter. Best wishes to all and Happy Valentines Day in advance.. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Saghir Siraj" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 8:48 AM Subject: Re: HIV testing > Dear Glenn, > > What a strange answer you have given. "if we could Knit nurses we would", I > think this may have been an attempt to be rude which is quite amusing. > > The point I was making is that many Trusts use agencies to recruit from > overseas, the agencies in general will recruit from specific countries. > Using agencies that recruit from countries with lower levels of HIV is one > way forward. I realize that this may not be ethical and that I personally > would not implement this but I would be surprised if this approach has never > been taken. > > I do not want to get into one of these long slaging matches that seem so > popular on this site, so could you please keep any insults to yourself. > Mature debate only please > > Thanks > > Saghir. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Glenn Raybone [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > > Sent: 12 February 2004 17:12 > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: HIV testing > > > > In a message dated 12/02/2004 09:04:24 GMT Standard Time, > > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > > > > > > Just to throw a bit of controversy into the discussion, wouldn't a > > solution > > be to not actively recruit staff from countries with high levels of > > HIV. > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > yes this would 'ease' the issue slightly, but in today's NHS a nurse is a > > nurse, and current vacancy levels are such that if we could knit nurses > > I'm sure we would. > > > > regards, > > > > Glenn > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remove this footer before replying. Visit > > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html for list archives > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > This e-mail is confidential and privileged. > > If you are not the intended recipient please accept our apologies; > Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail > or take any action in reliance on its contents: > to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Please inform us that this message has gone astray before deleting it. > > Thank you for your co-operation. > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please remove this footer before replying. > Visit http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html for list archives ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remove this footer before replying. Visit http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html for list archives