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> in discussion with pango, it was disclosed that resolution is not good > indoors, apropos marc's comment. http://www.gpster.net/where-fi-design.html A free software version of that Pango can't apparently de even when they charge for theirs, Where-Fi turns any Wi-Fi 802.11 deployment into an infrastructure for location awareness. WiFi node signal strengths are sampled over the geographical limits of the project and these radiometric signatures are associated with a geographic location. Where-Fi enabled clients can take signal samples and compare them with the database to determine the geographical location of the client. > marc, etc, i am interested in comment re: can we envision >> the design for a system that can not, or will not be recuperated (by >> large companies and goverments), 'cause, for example, it's just too >> hard to control? > > i hope this is the case, i am not optimistic in u.s where. clear > channel > corporation currently owns well over half the nation's radio content. Get this... in the US and Japan, there is a company --that shall remain unnamed on this very public list-, that was just granted a patent for what you are doing with 34n118w... Email me personally and I'll tell you more or we can discuss it in Manchester, you can do a search in the US patent bureau online to prove it to yourself. The definition they gave for their patent on a location-aware mobile authoring system was, in fact, s-o-o-o broad, that technically, you and anyone else who are setting-up a location-awareness installations in the US can now be in breach of their patent. > creepy shit. how did that happen?! How do you like thems apples? M