> Subject: Re: locative? tracked! > > i don't want to spoil the party, but i have always understood > the term 'locative' as pointing in both directions, the > potential for enriching the experience of shared physical > spaces (as described by Marc in his mail), but also fostering > the the possibility to 'locate', i.e. track down anyone > wearing such a device. this does turn the 'locative media' > movement into something of an avantgarde of the 'society of > control'. i believe that people are aware of the ambivalence, > but i am wondering at which > level this critical aspect is brought into an arts project. > (as the marginalised 'yes, but'?) Well, up to a point. There are many ways to be located, there are many uses for data. A basic GPS unit uses the background GPS satellite data to establish its own whereabouts. Thus, while a GPS unit can be part of a more complex communicating unit, in its essense it is like taking a reading on a star. The information given is local to the user. Thus, a GPS device in itself gives the user something valuable without giving anything away. The GPS acts as a calculator (of location etc) and as a recorder (of same). I assume it will not be long before Of course, artists (and businesses) will quickly come up with reasons why this local data should not remain local, i.e. that it should be shared and distributed in a two way stream, for whatever purpose. And in our networked world, we will not consider this to be a strange request. You can today combine variously gps, bluetooth, gprs, gsm, wi-fi, internet, to engage with the flow of locative data. It is the specific uses/outcomes of such combinations that buys us into the 'society of control'. Artists are of course fully aware of this, and much art in this space currently will act as a warning or alert system for such potentiality. Any user of a locative system, assuming they bother to inform themselves, should know where their data is flowing and to what use it may be put. In the UK the telcos have started selling access to locative data construed from local gsm cells. This is much more invidious data, as it is in no way within the users choice to be located in such a way. Cheers, Ivan