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> I have not put this nearly as nuanced or as knowledgeably as > others on this list can and have, but pace Ivan's call for > getting down to it and looking at specific taxonomies, which > I can sympathize with, I think the issue is the > container/infrastructure for these taxonomies and how we can > create counter cartographies of the relations between and > among them that aren't controlled only by those with certain > kinds of power. I'd just like to point out that what I wanted to do was not suggest that we _must_ knuckle down to it, but to point out that if it is really a taxonomy we want, we need to do some spadework. Personally, I'm more in tune with: > I believe passionately in recovering and maintaining the > possibility of various histories, but in all likelihood this > will not occur through creating some agreed upon taxonomy or > "meaning" for "new media." It will occur through creating > some kind of platform that does the opposite of fixing > meaning and allows for personal, communal, and opposing > points of view to be argued and emerge, while overall having > some sense of authority because of relative comprehensiveness > (even - or especially(?) - if distributed). Cheers, Ivan