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Since when have the terms 'new media' and 'avant-garde' been transposable? patrick lichty <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Exactly. This is brilliant, and spot on. One of the key uses, if not _the_ key use of taxonomical location is control/power. I also believe in part is that once taxonomies begin to settle in, the truly avant-garde begin to move on. And yes, I do believe that the avant-garde still exists, and has not really waned much since its rise at the fin de siecle. Its modality has merely changed. Patrick Lichty Editor-In-Chief Intelligent Agent Magazine http://www.intelligentagent.com 1556 Clough Street, #28 Bowling Green, OH 43402 225 288 5813 [log in to unmask] "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -----Original Message----- From: Curating digital art - www.newmedia.sunderland.ac.uk/crumb/ [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Josephine Berry Slater Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 8:28 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: definitions Classification is always a form of power! Let's think about this instead. It seems astonishing that this isn't being addressed in the many attemtps to capture the media(um)/genre/ism. Does it benefit the people on this list to fix its taxonomical character? I would venture that it does. Josie