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Happy new year from a very hot Christchurch New Zealand. I remember when I reviewed all the 'maternity' videos and films in the hospital library about 15 years ago, there was one I came across that looked really old and was promoting the use of oxytocics. Interestingly if I remember rightly it promoted the use of ergometrine following the birth of the placenta, rather than to stimulate this process. It did set me thinking at the time, that this seemed a better idea, because I had recently birthed a women who unexpectedly delivered twins. Because I was the only one in the delivery theatre at the time, I was too busy managing the first baby which had shot out and had not given the ecbolic when we were expected to, with the anterior shoulder. By the time I had given the baby to the mother, still on my own in the theatre, the second baby shot out before I could get the ergometrine in. I must admit I did wait a while before finally giving it!! Videos and films are a really interesting and often untapped source of information for research purposes. Its often not what is said in them as what is not said and the way activities are described and prescribed. Hope this is useful Kind regards Chris Chris Hendry Postgraduate midwifery lecturer Otago Polytechnic New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: Deborah <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:19 AM Subject: third stage > A successful and properous new year to all on the list. > I am searching for a reference on the history of the use of oxytocics in the > third stage of labour. Can anyone help? Thanks. Deborah Caine >