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Good point Biddy. Perhaps I should pay
myself £150 a year subs.
Mike Morris, Librarian,
ISCA
51 Banbury Rd., Oxford OX2
6PE 01865 274671
-----Original Message-----
From: Chartered Library and
Information Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Fisher, Biddy M
Sent: 16 January 2004 10:13
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Subject: Re: LIS gazette: Watson
I have always held the view that WE are
CILIP. If we complain about CILIP then we complain about ourselves.
Ms Biddy Fisher MLib, FCLIP
Head of Academic Services &
Development
Learning Centre
Sheffield Hallam University
Howard Street
Sheffield S1 1WB
UK
Tel +44 (0)114 225 2104
Fax +44 (0)114 225 3859
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chartered Library and
Information Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Julian Dawson
Sent: 16 January 2004 09:54
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Subject: Re: LIS gazette: Watson
Indeed......
CILIP could make all the noise it likes about what
information professionals should be paid, but unless we are
prove our worth (and shout about it) to our employers, and indeed the
colleagues to whom we provide a service, we are likely to find ourselves
without gainful employment, let alone a decent salary....
Julian Dawson
Senior
Librarian
Arup
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Johnson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 09:48
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Subject: Re: LIS gazette: WatsonRemuneration depends to a great extent on an employer's evaluation of the size of the job, but also on their perception of the value of the job to the organisation. One of the major weaknesses as far as the LIS profession is concerned is a failure to demonstrate any impact that the information service makes on the achievement of the organisation's overall aims. This is well demonstrated in the literature, which is largely deficient of any real evidence of impact. Take a look at our recent research report
Wavell, C, Baxter, G, Johnson, I.M, and Williams, D.A. (2002) Impact evaluation of museums, archives and libraries: available evidence project Final report on a research project funded by Resource: The Council for Museums, Archives and Libraries. Aberdeen: The Robert Gordon University.
http://www.rgu.ac.uk/files/imreport%2EpdfEven if we had the evidence, we are generally (as a profession and as individuals) not particularly good at getting the message across. There is a tendency to just winge about how badly we are treated!
-----Original Message-----
From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike Morris
Sent: 16 January 2004 09:23
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Subject: LIS gazette: WatsonHow encouraging to see that CILIP has three purposes, none of them including addressing the poverty-level wages in what we are pleased to call a profession. Perhaps if it did (and with any sense of urgency or robustness) we might stand a chance of getting 40, 000 members.
Mike Morris, Librarian, ISCA
51 Banbury Rd., Oxford OX2 6PE 01865 274671
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