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We've tried accepting low-paid ads for quite a long time, and it hasn't resulted in equitable pay. Perhaps it's time to try a different tack. And I think most people would be shocked if they knew how poorly paid LIS graduates are. If they don't, it's down to CILIP not shouting as loud as teachers, etc. Mike Morris, Librarian, ISCA 51 Banbury Rd., Oxford OX2 6PE 01865 274671 _____ From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Maclachlan Liz (Mrs EA) Sent: 27 October 2004 16:20 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Young librarians I do sympathise with many of the frustrations with low pay expressed. But I also think we have to be realistic here about what CILIP can do about low pay..