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Or to put it another way: we're not interested in why CILIP is failing; if you want something done do it yourself. Why is "debate" in inverted commas? Mike Morris, Librarian, ISCA 51 Banbury Rd., Oxford OX2 6PE 01865 274671 -----Original Message----- From: Chartered Library and Information Professionals [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Fisher, Biddy M Sent: 11 November 2004 10:49 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Cilip is a member led organisation is it? Dear Robert (and list) Co-incidentally I am about to Chair the first committee meeting of the LIRG at CILIP and using the members information service to respond to your suggestion....