Having reviewed the arguments, I think that flat fee or graduated is very much not a red herring. I bet most CILIP members are on lower salaries, and if they are to be expected to pay the same amount as people on higher salaries then that would count as unjust to me. Think about a flat-rate income tax. LIke many of us I have spent almost a working a life on very much not 20K, working with people who get very much not 20K and serving people who bring up families on very much not 20K. I would like more, and I have the tastes to prove it, but no professional organisation for people like me should base its fees on what higher-paid people would like to pay. Try asking what lower-paid people would like to pay. I could reduce my sub by several decimal places, and I've already been tempted. Others have dropped membership altogether. Alan Sandham, Delivered Services Librarian, Middlesbrough Council Libraries and Information Diana Nutting <[log in to unmask]>@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on 27/10/2004 09:59:40 Please respond to Chartered Library and Information Professionals <[log in to unmask]> Sent by: Chartered Library and Information Professionals <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] cc: Subject: Membership fees Having reviewed the arguments, I think that flat fee or graduated is a red herring. The argument is actually about what does CILIP achieve for its members. If members feel that they getting something for their money, the fees structure becomes irrelevant. For me, the big issue is CILIP's lack of support for professional status and pay. This goes as far as accepting, via the Gazette, advertisements for incredibly badly paid jobs, instead of lobbying employers about why they should pay well. If CILIP continues to refuse to do this, it loses all credibility as an upholder of professional standards and will go down the route of the Chartered Institute of Marketing which simply offers courses. And of course, people on a decent salary can afford CILIP fees! After many years out of the profession, I have returned to it, and rejoined CILIP. After 18 months I can see nothing that CILIP does that benefits me, or my team, (none of the qualified people on my team are members of CILIP, they don't see how it is relevant to them), nor do I see myself contributing to the profession via CILIP, although I do in other ways. Diana Nutting Information Liaison Manager Business Link for London Link House 292-308 Southbury Road Enfield EN1 1TS > * 020 8443 7229 > * [log in to unmask] www.businesslink4london.com -- Writing a marketing plan - a practical guide Visit http://www.businesslink4london.com to find out more Winner: Most effective public sector website 2004 This email has been scanned for viruses at Business Link for London ************************************************************************************************** This email and its attachments are confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted, in reliance on the contents, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Internet communications are not secure and therefore Middlesbrough Council does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message as it has been transmitted over a public network. If you suspect the message may have been intercepted or amended, please call the sender. ** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals and malicious content. ** ************************************************************************************************** Save energy, money and the environment - is it really necessary to print this message?