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Hi, thinking about Munsterberg's assertion a little more. I wonder if we might think about this as a form of introjection. We begin by watching the film as "out there" and end up by experiencing as "in here" . Now I know that there has been a lot of work on the phenomenon known as "suture" whereby we can think of the cinematic apparatus as functioning to producing a specific kind of spectator differentiated from, let's say, a theater audience. But I have been discussing with my first year undergraduates the film 'Jesus Of Montreal'. and we were talking about how we begin by watching a film about a group of actors making a play and we end by watching an allegory. It would seem, talking to these 18/19 year olds that there is a transformation in their experience that the Munsterberg quote might be useful as a starting point in helping them to articulate the experience. alan * * Film-Philosophy Email Discussion Salon. After hitting 'reply' please always delete the text of the message you are replying to. To leave, send the message: leave film-philosophy to: [log in to unmask] For help email: [log in to unmask], not the salon. **